Hunting with "silencers"? - Page 2

dinosaur · 01-29-2012, 10:55 PM

Everyone has something to say here. I don't care, I can make a supppressor out of a piece of tin foil and a plastic bottle. Silencing a rifle round is a piece of cake.

I don't need it so I don't do it. Why is this important? If I decide that your death is more important than life on this planet; you die.

Yeah, I know, I'm an *******. Sarge, I am looking for support here. I'm probably not going to get it.

At some point someone has to do this.. When there are people who want to kill you, you have to do something. When I hear that I am an infidel and have to die, I get a bit testy about it. If I am a target for some weirdo with a bomb strapped to his stomach, I have a bit of a problem. I want him dead.

I'm not looking for him to understand me. I don't care what he wants or feels. I look at what he's trying to do and I want him gone.

I know I'm wrong. But I also know that if I get the chance, he's dead. I'm the bad guy. Sue me.

oldsarge · 01-30-2012, 12:14 AM

Sure, I'll back you up on this Dino! Just not sure how we made the transition from hogs to terrorist. Unless your're speaking of HOGs then it makes sense and you're spot on. I myself am still just a PIG.

Grandpa · 01-30-2012, 08:55 AM

Not sure I'm following the acronyms but I'll defend your right to defend yourself as well.

ChadTower · 01-30-2012, 11:08 AM

I'm still stuck on the reason for wanting one. If it degrades long range accuracy, and the goal is to drop more than one pig, seems like coordinated shots would be better. Learning to shoot accurately would be better. Making the rifle less accurate hoping to get off more shots sounds like a crutch for people who don't want to master the skills.

oldsarge · 02-01-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadTower

I'm still stuck on the reason for wanting one. If it degrades long range accuracy, and the goal is to drop more than one pig, seems like coordinated shots would be better. Learning to shoot accurately would be better. Making the rifle less accurate hoping to get off more shots sounds like a crutch for people who don't want to master the skills.

I wonder how far they are taking shot. Modern suppressors do not degrade accuracy as bad as people think. If you have a suppressor that shrouds the barrel, accuracy can even be improved. Some suppressors experience what they call "suppressor boost", a light push on the round by gasses expanding. If you are a sniper looking at reaching out to 400 or 500 meters you will experience a difference in accuracy, but they way to deal with that is to train and know the difference in how your weapon reacts in certain conditions. The quality of the suppressor is a big factor also.

guns4570 · 02-03-2012, 01:42 AM

I hate to tell you guyes but Sound suppresses are legal in Kansas for hunting. They are also used in Australia and South Africa. The main reason they are used is to reduce hearing loss. For some reason people think they have to have a magnum to shoot a whitetail deer then they put a muzzle brake on it so they can stand the recoil. If you have ever been around one they can easel damage your hearing even if you only hunt with it. I have read son forums were guide services will not allow a customer to bring a gun with a muzzle brake on a hunt. A sound suppressor only reduces the sound it does not eliminate it.

oldsarge · 02-03-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by guns4570

A sound suppressor only reduces the sound it does not eliminate it.

Correct! Most people think of Hollywood movies and believe suppressors are made to make the weapon inaudible. The purpose is to change or mask the sound of the weapon. It will never be totally silenced. Even when using subsonic ammo.

ChadTower · 02-03-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsarge

If you are a sniper looking at reaching out to 400 or 500 meters you will experience a difference in accuracy, but they way to deal with that is to train and know the difference in how your weapon reacts in certain conditions.

Yeah, but we're not talking military activity here. If you're a sniper you don't need a second shot to drop a pig. It's not like the other pigs are going to mobilize and cut off your escape route.

Pathfinder1 · 02-03-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadTower

Yeah, but we're not talking military activity here. If you're a sniper you don't need a second shot to drop a pig. It's not like the other pigs are going to mobilize and cut off your escape route.

Hi...

Lets hope they never went to SERE school...!!

oldsarge · 02-04-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadTower

Yeah, but we're not talking military activity here. If you're a sniper you don't need a second shot to drop a pig. It's not like the other pigs are going to mobilize and cut off your escape route.

My point was that accuracy is not an issue as far as silencers are concerned. I am curious as to how far they are taking shots that's all. Others stated that this may lead up to accidental shootings, I don't see how.