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12-09-2011, 06:07 AM
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,321
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Originally Posted by wvbreamfisherman Wolves never attack humans, in fact they are nothing but big misunderstood babies. Just ask noted wolf expert Kevin Costner! | I have a pet Red Wolf but that doesn't make me an expert on wolves. Of course, Kevin Costner dances with wolves. I suppose if I were out camping I might dance with a wolf but I wouldn't invite her back to my tent.
My wolf, on the other hand, is somewhat domesticated. But I've had people ask if he will bite. Of course he'll bite. All canines bite. Some are just bigger than others.
A man's reach should exceed his grasp.-Robert Browning
A man's got to know his limitations.-Dirty Harry |
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12-09-2011, 12:12 PM
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#12 | | Forester
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Minden, NV Posts: 1,184
| Grandpa is right. People who live in ID and spend time in the hills see wolves. If you live in the west or upper midwest, get ready because there will soon be wolves around if they aren't there yet. Saw a wolf in no. NV this Sept near the ID line while hunting elk.
I did some fire rehab work for a lady near here that had a 7/8 wolf hybrid. Jezebel ran loose on about 50 acres of private and public land and watched me work some times. I avoided eye contact with her, but became comfortable in her presence after a while. Some of my day laborers were a different story. One morning I was sitting on the tailgate of my truck with a new guy putting on our work boots. "Don't look over there" I said, "but there is a wolf watching us." " Holy ****", was all he could he manage.
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12-09-2011, 01:13 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,998
| I have been very outspoken about wolves. I know it is a controversial subject with a lot of passion on both sides. Let me make it perfectly clear. I have nothing against wolves. We had a healthy population of wolves in the Idaho wilderness before the invasion oops reintroduction. There was a wolf killed in this valley in 1988 by a rancher after the wolf had killed livestock. Other wolves were also occasionally seen here. Wolves were commonly seen in the massive wilderness/primitive areas of central Idaho. But to bring in the larger species and then put all wolves on the endangered list was totally irresponsible by the government. The wolves would be fine if they were properly managed but they are being allowed to run free. From the few they said they planted in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming they have spread into all the neighboring states. The feds finally admitted that a wolf pack was established in Utah two years ago, despite wolves being seen regularly in the Promontory range as early as 2000. And in 2003, and 2004, several wolves were killed attacking livestock in NE Utah. I am sure by now Colorado has several packs as well. Two years ago a pack was confirmed in the Cascades. Now it is five packs. They said that first pack had migrated from the Frank Church wilderness in Idaho. Let me see, a pack of wolves decideds to migrate, so they leave the Church, cross 100 miles of the Payette NF into the Seven Devils on the Idaho side of Hells Canyon, cross the canyon to the Hells Canyon Wilderness on the Oregon side, cross the Eagle Cap Wilderness, cross the Blue Mountains, cross the Sisters Wilderness and take up residency in the Cascades? Without stopping at all those other pristine wilderness'? If those wolves migrated, it was in the back of a Fed biologists truck.
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12-10-2011, 12:49 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 197
| Any wild animal is dangerous. But, wolves will kill for the thrill and not for necessity. They are huge, dangerous canines that can tear out any animals throat in an instant if they hit in the right spot immediately which they very often do. They, as well as wild/feral dogs, will stalk any prey and work together to take them down. We have had to deal with a feral dog pack recently and it is hard to find them because their sense of smell is so much more advanced than ours. They know we are coming to hunt them long before we ever see them.
I don't have anything against wolves either, Grandpa and Dinosaur. As a matter of fact, I've thought seriously of getting one for a companion animal. But, they will always, in the recesses of their minds, be a predator. It's like having a lion or a tiger for a pet. It can be done and done successfully, however they still have that instinct.
I have no idea why the feds thought they should reintroduce them since they are still around in remote areas. Since they called a hiatus on killing them they were thriving in certain areas.
So, if Little Red Riding Hood is out there reading, don't trust a wolf whether it be a wolf in human clothing or just a plain old gray wolf stalking you.
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12-16-2011, 06:49 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,321
| Well, Qweetzy, I don't entirely agree with everything you said. But, that's not important. You are correct about wolves being predators. If you are going to have one as a pet, make certain it understands that you are the ALPHA.
A man's reach should exceed his grasp.-Robert Browning
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12-18-2011, 11:46 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 108
| I don't think I would have a wolf as a pet, either. I have heard stories of people domesticating a wolf and getting on with it for years. Then one day it just snaps and attacks its owner. I would always have that fear in my mind and animals can sense fear.
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12-18-2011, 02:08 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,998
| A pet wolf killed my neighbors 3 year old boy several years ago. The boys were running, the little guy was trying to keep up and the wolf just ran up behind and gave him a "playful nip" on the back of the neck.
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12-18-2011, 02:22 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 655
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Originally Posted by sailorman I don't think I would have a wolf as a pet, either. I have heard stories of people domesticating a wolf and getting on with it for years. Then one day it just snaps and attacks its owner. I would always have that fear in my mind and animals can sense fear. | I've seen this happen with a golden retriever, a scottish terrier, and a tabby cat.
It's nothing to do with wolves. It has to do with animals in general... and people for that matter.
How many people just snapped one day? We call it "going postal".
It happens with dogs, wolves, cats, donkeys, elephants, children, etc. If it can think, it's complex enough to wig out.
"I'll forget the pain it took to finish, but I'll always remember it if I quit."
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12-18-2011, 02:24 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Liberty, N.Y. Lower Catskill Mountains. Posts: 1,604
| Hi...
Horrible way for anyone to go.
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"Pathfinder", who is now posting on this forum, is NOT Pathfinder1, which is me...!! |
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